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Re: [NHibernate-development] NH site

Fabio Maulo

2008-06-21

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2008/6/20 Pierre Henri Kuaté <phkuate@yahoo.fr>:

This is kind of like before NHibernate moved to hibernate.org.

We had a separate forum which was better than the current one since we could create sub sections and organize it like we wanted.

 

Aside that, we have to think of what value there is in moving out?

- Blogging? Is anybody interesting in creating/moving his blog to nhibernate.org/blogs/ ?


Well... I saw some blog with different matters and a blog talking only about NH (and its around).
http://blogs.hibernatingrhinos.com/nhibernate/Default.aspx
Commiters and users can, if they want, share their articles in the NH blog giving to the community the opportunity to find very interesting things "all in one place". The main difference is that now it is simply not possible.
 

- Documentation (How to, Faq...):

Well, I would highly prefer any documentation be inside the official one (in docbook format) since that one can be compiled and released for online access/printing/whatever. Now, I know that it is quite restrictive (since it is docbook), and that's why we have this page: http://www.hibernate.org/365.html

Maybe we could ressucitate the wiki that we had a while ago...


Yes that is the idea with a difference... now we have a more big community for two reason:
1) NH is more closer to Hb
2) Microsoft push .NET people to study ORM frameworks
 

 

By the way, if we decide to create a new forum, it is highly important to export the current one (even if it isn't reorganized) because it contains a lot of information that should stay available (without having to juggle between two websites).


I don't know who are using the "official forum", I think that de-facto the international forum today is
http://groups.google.com.ar/group/nhusers
 

So, overall, I fear that it might be not be worth the effort. But I could be wrong if you have any specific ideas.

 

Oh, and about JBoss, let's not be unfair: They did pay Sergey to work full time on NHibernate for about a year and it is in that time frame that NHibernate 1.0 was released (which required a lot of clean up, organization and proper documentation).


I'm not unfair. I know that JBOSS done a great thing supporting and financing NH for one year and really I appreciate it but... the reality today is another.
Today we don't asking, to JBOSS, nothing more than give us the ability to have our site and do what we need there without any kind of limitation (in practics mean redirection of www.nhibernate.org where we want).

I think that they stopped supporting NHibernate simply because it wasn't profitable enough and too much "out of line" (since they focus on Java).


Ok and support-NH and then not-support-NH was their decision. No problem with it but let us do what we want do for the future of NH.
 

And does RedHat really "owns" anything? We should be able to take back nhibernate.org if we want to..


Are you sure ?
I hope RedHat give us a definitive answer soon (the first was "Red Hat owns both the NHibernate domain and trademark").

Fabio Maulo
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